I then went to several restaurants and asked what could be in their used cooking oil vats prior to pick up to go to the dog food factories. The people at the shelter wanted her to adopt him, but they couldn’t because he needed to go to a female only home. Colors: Solid black, brown, blue, fawn (Isabella) with rust marking on their head, ... Their name comes from Louis Dobermann, a keeper of the local dog pound, who developed the breed as he was searching for the ideal guard dog and companion. Did AKC refuse to register something you have? I hope you found yourself another Doberman love. Haha, just like it’s wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those one’s tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldn’t be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRB’s without the ridge? General colouring can be black, brown, blue or isabella in combination with tan. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. If you don’t understand what I’m talking about, reasearch the original european bulldogs. That’s you. Mom kept saying that she didn’t like Dobermans and Chantelle would sit next to her and lay her head on her lap looking up at her. Only Shebah. Look at what we did to the. You sound scarily superior to the rest of us – Thread from 2 posts above – ‘Wouldn’t it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? 2. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. They are also highly intelligent and alert, so with good training make excellent guard dogs. skin, stomach, ear, breathing etc? I remain devastated to this day. I’ve seen others similarly sized. i have owned 4 of the 5 colors ( i have never owned a red) and i have to say that the whites and the blacks were the healthiest and had minimal problems. Maybe you shudnt even own a dog if you feel they’re , how do I put this, um.. “stuoid”. The next most widely seen color is the red Doberman, which is a light brownish-red hair coloring. Lay blame where blame belongs, the people who don’t spay, neglect, and/or abuse animals. I also became very bored reading your snarky reply. You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isn’t a terrible act. Special consideration should be taken that the Dobermans nails are kept short so that their feet remain healthy and cat like when standing. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot. That will cause many health issues. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? I also belive that dobermans that carry the albino trait should not be bred even if they are a champion. Please help if you can. My white Doberman is both death and blind but very sweet. I also understand that just because they are here doesn’t mean you should TRY to breed them. All dogs no matter what breed should be spayed bottom line. Hence they are not a true Albino. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. Well be receiving him next week once he turns 8 weeks but I’m just worried now that’s all the money I just spent on him I’m going to spend more because of the possible health issues of him being z factored . Article literally just said breeding white ones is inhumane…. Are fawn Dobermans rare? With the addition of the dilute gene in our thinking, Doberman coat color becomes more complex. They don’t call them Velcro dogs for nothing , in the 40 or so years Doberman’s have owned me I have never went to the bathroom alone , they are always at my side. In fact, we were there yesterday as I purchased another Doberman. Get yourself another color. We also encourage the rehoming of rescue dogs to knowledgable homes through registered charities that we support. My Westie wanted to be second in command and over stepped her place so now I can’t let the Shepherd and Westie together. I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. My daughter has a 1 yr old purebred Red Doberman/German Shepherd and he is a doll. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future. Had a doberman whose mom was white. It’s to sad. Other than that and some skin issues (common) she is beautiful and healthy. I started to use the term cream in identifying them as well because, let’s face it, they are a cream color and not white or albino. But to everyone that has question about wanting to buy one i just like to say the are special its like having a special child they cant see good in sun light late afternoon best for him’and to those that say put them down do you put special children down! As far as what information you’ve given, I believe there is no such thing as a bad dog but there is such thing as a bad owner. There has been “NO” testing done that would prove or disprove the albino theory. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. to clear up the debate on albino dobermans. To each his own on color, if it floats your boat and you love that guy or gal go for it. VMD and AKC registered Doberman breeder here. Shelter dogs and puppy mill dogs are bred by irresponsible assholes and greedy bastards. You know. Well, except for those pesky squirrels. He is very gentle and extremely good with children. And why would you say AKC and purebred dogs are sick anyway? Homozygous means that the 2 genes of the gene pair match, as in BB or bb. I had a Blue Doberman. My white/cream girl is perfectly healthy. Life is like a box of jelly beans no one likes the black ones. No its norepriducing It’s a pet. Right, exactly what we did not want, a puppy. Orginal and natural skin is brown due to melanin which attracts the sun and creates vitamin d and makes us stronger. There will of course be some adjustment as the dog learns what’s expected in it’s new house. http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm The website also has a lot of information for anyone wanting information about the Dobermans. Hi! Compared to intact dogs, neutered and spayed dogs had a 3.5 times higher risk of developing mast cell cancer, regardless of what age they were neutered. All Doberman Pinscher found here are from AKC-Registered parents. (I canNOT be out of her sight!) Get off your high horse hippe! Blue Dobermans are susceptible to developing the health issues common for Dobermans, which include, von Willebrands disease and Cardiomyopathy, however, since they have a color diluted gene, the Blue Dobermans then have the added issue of a skin condition known as Color Dilution Alopecia, which means their hair becomes brittle and can break easily. My parents breed him with a rusty female doberman with tan markings who was not from the same bloodline as Logan and half of eights puppies were white the other half rusty-colored. Having said that, his eye sight is not perfect. When you visit a breeder, ask to see the mother and father to judge their “friendliness” and get references. Help? The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. Your Doberman will be fine. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. The vet told me the breeders usually put the white puppies to sleep and any animal lover would not do such a thing. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. But he was gentle as could be around them. I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. I’m like you – not wanting a puppy, but a 2-4 year old. If inbreeding or line breeding is used in any breed of animal to create an albino animal, there is a good chance that the animal will have health problems because of harmful recessive traits that crop up with the subsequent lack of genetic diversity. Hello Michael, I too am not a breeder/trainer but I am now on dobe number 3 and have worked with them as security dogs. Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? It stands on its pads and is not usually heavy-footed. Such a pity the US still allows this irresponsible practice. They also may be more aggressive and therefore, give the breed a bad reputation. I don’t think so. What kind of food do you recommend. I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!! While he lived to be 9, had I chosen to breed him, and I considered it prior to knowing he was a carrier, I would have done an injustice to the pups and everyone who acquired one. Maybe next might be another color like a Blue. He had non – cropped ears , but we didn’t have any problems with it (BTW sometimes my German Shepperd had ears problem). ?She starts her puppy training tonight! As for good foods there are so many nowadays. These dogs eyes are quite large and thus produces enough pigment to lend opacity to the eye, often colouring the iris pale blue. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. Very few Dobes carry the recessive white, and fewer carry the gene close enough to override and produce. I am sure you didn’t know about the z factor before hand and it should say on it’s AKC papers that there is NO Z FACTOR in its bloodline if it comes from quality breeders. Do you know they can get cancer if you don’t get them fixed? Yes i agree dont breed for a color (but i do want a white) but for temperment and health i have seen dobies that are just ill tempered in any color. Many entrepreneurial breeders have had the thought that simply seeking out fawn or blue colored Dobermans who are also healthy, and breeding these, with the hope of producing healthy fawn and blue puppies. The Blue Doberman is sleek and elegant-looking with a muscular and compact build. Ok, I think it needs to be said… that while whites are beautiful, intelligent, loving and just as wonderful as any other color of dobe, the akc doesn’t accept them. And sometimes red Dobermans are called “chocolate Dobermans”. Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. I am a breeder and my female come from a line of whites. My advice would be to first: find out if the pooch you might get has been registered as the dreaded WZ and if so… RUN! I adopted a white Doberman who is 5 year old and I also own a Black and Tan Doberman I brought home form a wonderful breeder. PS, I don’t own a white Dobe but rather a Cockerpoo! I think there are a lot of moronic people on this site that are prejudiced as well as an educated even though they should stop and think that humans by their logic are imbread as well because if it was just Adam and eve then some body was double dipping…so white dobermans aren’t alone are they? Shut your mouth dumbass, if people wanna spend their hard earned money on something they want then let em….who the f**know are u to say anything. Well, believe it or not, there is such a thing. His mother comes from Poland well bred. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. My Grandparents brought me up and as a child we had a German Shepherds called Sally who was farm stock and lived to be 17 and my grandad said no matter how many dogs you have there will be one that stands out head and shoulders above all the others for me it was Cleo! Second its not fair to the unknowing animal lover out there who ends up with said unhealthy animal. The AKC doesn’t decide the requirements for the “show ring” That would be the breed clubs. But I surmised that a low dosage daily would be better. This statement is not intended to make you mad. Dobermans are beautiful…proud…noble…intelligent dogs and deserve the best we can give them…and breeding them to be sickly and have health problems is NOT the best we can give them. I am a dark skinned person i hve stomach problems, light sensitivity, and sometimes i dont behave like i should….should i be assisted with death because of it? Il dobermann è un cane di taglia medio-grande, i maschi al garrese misurano dai 68 ai 70 cm e pesano dai 40 a 44 kg, le femmine vanno dai 63 ai 67 cm, dai 32 ai 36 kg. In my opinion, not a good idea. She had experienced some hard blows in her life, starting at birth. God bless. Where there is demand and the opportunity for profit, there will be people willing to breed Dobermans with an unhealthy breeding philosophy to chase a profit. Her name was Blue. Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love. In reguards to health issues, all purebred dogs have more health issues than mixed breed dogs, generally each BREED has its own list of common health problems associated with THAT BREED. I’m not certain where you are located. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. With the exception of running across the field to see Grandma if she was outside. I’ve had Dobies for over 40 years! WHOMEVER WROTE OF THE WHITE DOBERMAN COLOR IS VERY BADLY INFORMED!!! Pricy, but it was worth our peace of mind. It’s soooo cute but his skin is very sensitive and I would like to know if you can share some products to take car of it. But health problems or no, like I said he is my baby, I love him sooo much and I wouldnt trade him for the world. It is seen as inhumane to the dog due to the potential for serious health concerns. Found a rescue in Enterprise, Alabama that we are currently in touch with. Wow, great to hear. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. MysticPink, or anyone else that may be having trouble with allergies, gas, itching, hives, rashes, bad breath, picky eaters….please feel free to contact me, as well:). Im hopeful this discovery leads to many more years for our beloved Dobermans! Cleo spoilt me because of her oober intelligence so went for a Weimaraner next Emma was bright but no Cleo! MONEY. The vet could not give me any reason not to keep the puppies or give them away to people who might want or even to sale the puppies. Maybe one of you will actually finish reading this and do some of you’re own research. And ever since I’ve been sharing what I’ve learned with other Dobie fans. As an answer to Sara and all others who think white is cool and don’t believe websites like http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. December 11th, 2011 at 6:32 pm You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isn’t a terrible act. And the oil is only one of the horrible things in their food. If just to get it away from you and whatever this “white” thing you have is not visited upon the animal. I lost my best friend 2 and a half years ago. Thanks! We are searching the rescues, not an easy task – they all have their own “qualifications to adopt”. Do NOT watch it with young children!!!! Like the white Doberman, they should not be bred. Kind regards, Tammy Cuthbert, Hello I’m getting an all black Doberman in about a week and I keep reading all these negative things about them. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. Personally I think the standard colors are quite beautiful but then I’m a bit biased as my “Princess” is a red. But it did the trick. Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing. I have a beautiful loving white dobe, he is very healthy and weights in at a nice 92 his skin is good, i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise, People you are forgetting one thing Dobermanns where breed from Weimaraners So Isabella color and the variations- it is totally normal considering this ))))). Una recente statistica (2000) condotta negli Stati Uniti, dove lo standard AKC-DPCA riconosce tutti i quattro colori, ha evidenziato che il 93% dei Dobermann blu ed il 75% di quelli isabella soffrono di CDA. there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. As I type this, we are in a Olcaa FL hotel waiting for the arrival of our dobie #4. My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. We are in touch with rescues, petfinder and have advertised. If you ask me it’s people who are ignorant and stupid . Su questa razza sono state riversate grandi quantità di … I have a white female Doberman and she is the best dog in the world she is good with my kids and has no health problems at all she’s fun and loving and gets along with any dog she even loves the cat next door and her best friend is a one year old pit named Chico I love all Dobermans they are the best dogs and loyal to there most inner core. possibly the most frustrating comment thread in history… all I have to say is this – first – the dogs that exist, I’m sure they’re all wonderful. She had light brown pigment to her hair, Light pigment to her skin and blue eyes. Although she is such a beauty and she has no health problems I will not be breeding her. You can easily make this yourself or call a few vets for other suggestions. Don’t worry, there isn’t any problem with this. That is thousands of years ago and they lived in northern Europe and into Russia. And that is across all colours. Health being the most important factor. My white doberman is perfectly healthy, with show quality disposition and features. If you come across a White Dobie, don’t hesitate to give him/her a forever home. Fantastic dogs. hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:moalfez01@gmail.com. He cannot wait to run down stair to greet us when any of us come home, and it’s delightful to see his gentle loving nature knowing exactly where our three year old granddaughters face will be when she opens the door, so he can give her a little kiss of acknowledgement on the cheek. She is a hand full and always wants too be by your side! We’ve got nothing but good to say about him. There are people in this terribly troubled and divisive world that don’t deserve to have the loyalty and unconditional love that most any dog will give openly and freely, even if they do not receive the same comfort and respect from their companion. if those of you who preach about the health, etc of the whites, why dont yuo get updated material, scientific material, and quit making yourself look so foolish. I got my last two from Doberman Rescue League which is in south florida and my first from Doberman Rescue of the Triad which is in North Carolina. ANYONE WHO BREEDS OR SHOWS ANY ANIMALS OR MAKES AN ATTEMPT AT BREED STANDARDS OR WHO ONLY OWNS PUREBREDS, has no right to blast anyone else for wanting their dog to look a certain way. I couldn’t have asked for a better dog. All Dobermans are sensitive to the cold, as well. This is where we are today. Anyone who tries to sell an Albino Doberman has an inferrior breeding program, they are culls. There’s a good reason that AKC registers white and white factor Dobermans with the letter Z in the registration number. Treat them right and the will do the same. But anyways, throughout his 14yrs I learned alot about genetics in Dobermans. The blue and the fawns are actually “Dilutes” of the Black and Red. Dobermann: carattere e caratteristiche. I have the white, she kept the fawn and sold the other pups. I love my babies period, but people just want what is unusual and what others dont have. Is it normal for them to have blue eyes as an adult? The white dobie has long since outgrown the initial inbreeding through which the breed was developed,as the Bullmastiff once did. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. i have owned dobermans for over 40 yrs and i can remember when this prejudice existed for the isabellas and the blues. Dal 1995 è addirittura vietata la riproduzione per quanto concerne i Dobermann blu focato e isabella, in quanto si è ritenuto che il gene responsabile di questi colori era lo stesso che causava una forma di alopecia definita “del mutante di colore”. dilute - a blue or a fawn. Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. Thanks! So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them. It is not for betterment of the breed, for confirmation or for the show ring because they are not the breed standard. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. If I ever have a white it will be a rescue. Currently I have two of my own Dobermans and one foster I am taking care of until she is healthy enough to be placed in a forever home. so its ok to cut boys penis’s but dont touch dog ears? Look at american rotts and ero rotts same for german shepards. only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. Until scientific research is done to prove they are albinoid, you all have no right to bicker like children about a dog. With my present Doberman Ive never fed this ‘leading brand’. Albinos do NOT have a color gene. So smart and loves attention. Cleo went eeverywhere with me ? The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms. Have you ever seen a female dog get cervical cancer?? Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. But some people aren’t aware that the Doberman is also born in other colors. In truth, there are various factors involved that may have deemed one dog bad, while another dog even from the same litter, but who has never been subjected to the same issues. Secondo me, un allevamento può far pagare un cane, color Isabella o blu, ma la cifra deve essere ragionevole, di pura compensazione spese. I have to say I actually own 4 white Dobes and 4 white factored Dobermans. She has had 2 small lumps removed over the years. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are “rare”. We have had various dobies since 1991. A pad with MESOSILVER taped to his foot and leg cured it in three days! California is far away. They were gorgeous animals will massive abilities and they have been evolved into the short, squat English bulldogs we know today only because of the breeding. i will also say that certain people should’nt be allowed to breed either (like know it alls that are never happy with their own lives) but they do. She has been the largest and sweetest dobie we have ever owned. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Although I have never personally owned a White Dobie, I have had the distinct honor of knowing four of them, very, very well. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. They are just as loving as any other color. I started with a potassium tab that you can get at almost any store. If one were to simply count the factor combinations that result in a blue coat, there are nearly as many as there are factor combinations resulting in red coats. White markings of any kind highly undesirable. She is my baby! a colored or non colored dogs are only going to be as well behaved as the owners. I was always afraid of dobies when I was younger, but they truly are a loving and magnificent breed.

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